<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Graham,<div><br></div><div>Yes, reading your reply to Brad, I understand the logic-- especially with the grid, the shapes and dimension lines.</div><div><br></div><div>However, I was surprised by the results when I resized a drawing in the DrawDemo.</div><div><br></div><div>I expected everything to scale: the rulers, the grid, the shapes and dimension lines-- and I'm not sure why? It says <b><i>Drawing Size...<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; "> but it is under the </span>View<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; "> menu</span></i></b></div><div><br></div><div>I am going to play around with some other programs (Pages, Photoshop, Canvas, etc.) to see if they surprise me too.</div><div><br></div><div>I've been learning/using FCS a lot recently & maybe I need to unlearn some things.</div><div><br></div><div>Let me get back to you.</div><div><br></div><div>Dick</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jul 8, 2008, at 5:45 PM, Graham Cox wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Hi Dick,<br><br>Layers can't be included in groups, as they are not subclasses of DKDrawableObject. In hindsight that might have been a good way to do things but it would be a big change to make now.<br><br>Your method outline could still work within each layer though, but the transform approach is probably cleaner. As I mentioned, it might be best to provide a method to do the work but leave the usage up to the app.<br><br>cheers, Graham<br><br><br>On 9 Jul 2008, at 7:32 am, Dick Applebaum wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">I don't know if this will help (or even if it is possible) but, from a logical standpoint couldn't you programatically:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">1) group all the objects together including the document layer as just another object<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">2) convert this to a shape<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">3) resize the shape as desired<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">4) convert back to a group object<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">5) ungroup<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Again , I don't know if DrawKit permits manipulation of the document layer in this way... if not, you could create a background object that serves as a document layer & manipulate is as above.<br></blockquote><br>_______________________________________________<br>Drawkit mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Drawkit@lists.apptree.net">Drawkit@lists.apptree.net</a><br>http://lists.apptree.net/listinfo.cgi/drawkit-apptree.net<br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>